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 Re: Grappling.. Guess whos back
 
 4/3/2007 11:16:56 PM
Ranman
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naw just j'n. i just remember the olden days of samuraibushi giving his long hard talks and i just wanted to see if there was anyone like him.

and hey dont say you respect the mma guys for the conditioning cause the xma work out isnt a walk in the park either. lol

and in response to the first guy, im not that ignorant!! lol but you wouldnt believe the number of ppl that think there the next bruce lee just becuase they trick. i see if i can tape them some time.

 4/5/2007 7:54:00 AM
TeamSharkey
78 posts


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If they think they are the next Bruce Lee because they can trick then they really don't Bruce at all. :)  Bruce, in my eyes, was the originator of the MMA concept.  Good tricks does not equal good martial arts by any means. 


If you think you can't. Then you are right.
 4/11/2007 1:15:08 AM
squirl
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hey whats up how you been.
 4/16/2007 8:31:16 PM
EagleScout316
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Well, Randy, I ain't no old guy from New York set to give a long speech, but I will say this.  While XMA is not built upon combative principles, it is not without the possibility of applying itself in combat.  When you look at Capoeira, it carries similar movements of 'extreme' twists, flips, and kicks, all of which really do hurt when you accidentally get hit during a roda.  Just last year, I was taught how to play in Capoeira whilst holding razor blades in either my mouth, my hands, and even inbetween my toes.  Now, is that even close to MMA.  No, and here's why: MMA is not martial arts.  It's just fighting.  Out of all the fighters I see training in Muay Thai or Jiu Jitsu, or any other style, if they are standing up, most of the time, the guys just wait and wait until they can hit a combination, and if they are on the ground, I see constant stalling, and people trying to strengthen through a movement, opposite the principles of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.  When you practice techniques of martial arts systems without giving thought to principles and concepts that flow through that system, then you are just practising moves in a system.  MMA, to me, is no different than Olympic Tae Kwon Do Sparring, or any type of point sparring.  While it looks impressive visually, it is still with the concept of limitations set upon people to derive from their ranks what the quorum of America's public would want to call a hero, or a champion.  Does that mean that the guys in those cages aren't worth a damn.  Not at all, but to call every one of them a martial artist is lacking in truth.  For me, personally, I don't like point sparring.  To me, flash is trash (And don't try to harp on me for this comment, Mike Chat has personally told me the exact same thing).  I'm a combative person, and while I enjoy practicing things like Wushu (China was awesome, btw), I still look for the principles of arts that will help me prepare my body for war and my mind for peace.  That doesn't mean that point sparring and the like have no place in this world; I've met plenty of people that are more about competition than anything else.  And with that note, my computer's battery power is just about dead, and I need to go finish a college paper (8 pages worth).  Darn, wish I could have said more on the subject.

-David


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 4/17/2007 4:51:28 PM
xmafanatic
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Hey Randy,
I am a very well rounded martial arts competitor that competes in many different variety of tournaments. I am and advanced brown belt and I have somethings to say about your "speech" lol. I compete, teach, and learn mma, grapling, kickboxing, sds, FORMS, WEAPONS and XMA. Mike Chat as well said this to me personnaly flash is trash... without the basics and the true martial artist skills! I compete in all types of tournaments in new jersey, penssylvania, new york, florida and chicago. You are right people the ones in UFC, are horrible and shouldn't be considered mixed martial artists. They are sloppy, lazy, and very hyped. If you watch the final fu in the summer time on mtv, this is hardcore mixed martial arts. Although some is more taekwondo and some is karate but overall it dosent matter. These martial arts such as Hans Wakelieng, Matt Mullins and Daniel Sterling have true martial arts tallent. I agree with you totally and would like to have futher conversations on this topic.

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